{"id":567,"date":"2012-02-25T13:17:02","date_gmt":"2012-02-25T13:17:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/?p=567"},"modified":"2012-02-25T13:17:02","modified_gmt":"2012-02-25T13:17:02","slug":"my-d800-preorder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/?p=567","title":{"rendered":"My D800 Preorder"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/353_25480_D800_right.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-568\" title=\"353_25480_D800_right\" src=\"http:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/353_25480_D800_right.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"353\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/353_25480_D800_right.png 353w, https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/353_25480_D800_right-300x254.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 353px) 100vw, 353px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>(Image is Nikon&#8217;s, and links to their D800 page). In an\u00a0<a title=\"Time to go full frame?\" href=\"http:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/?p=545\">earlier post<\/a>\u00a0on the announcement of the D4, I decided that the D4 was too big and too expensive to reasonably consider &#8211; and that the D800 was looking like it wasn&#8217;t the camera for me.\u00a0Almost three weeks ago, on February 7th, Nikon announced the D800 (and D800E) full frame cameras. And in spite of what I had said earlier, I pre-ordered a D800 the day of the announcement. \u00a0Did something change my mind &#8211; why did I preorder?<\/p>\n<p>Well, pre-ordering alone doesn&#8217;t take much guts &#8211; you get to pore over all the samples, analysis, and early user feedback in the month or so that follows until the camera actually starts shipping, and if you don&#8217;t like what you see, you can cancel at no cost. And if Nikon&#8217;s past launches have been indicative, there won&#8217;t be enough D800s anyways, so it&#8217;d probably be trivial to sell it perhaps even at a profit if it didn&#8217;t meet expectations. I intensely dislike secondary markets that offer new goods at inflated prices (because it results in lots of non-customers buying solely to make a profit, making it more difficult and expensive for legitimate fans to actually get the products in question, without providing any value back to the product creator &#8211; see the first year of the Nintendo Wii for examples), but it does take any risk out of pre-ordering.<\/p>\n<p>However, as I&#8217;ll explain below, I went a step further and actually committed to this for real. Given that the D800 isn&#8217;t intended to address my primary need &#8211; good enough high ISO performance to shoot the kids in ambient indoor light at shutter speeds that accommodate their constant state of motion &#8211; why did I commit anyways?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>There were several factors:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Size<\/strong>. \u00a0Or more specifically, weight; the D800 is about the same size as the D700 (both are much smaller than the D3\/D4), and it&#8217;s a decent bit lighter (900g for the D800 vs. 995g for the D700, according to Nikon). \u00a0That&#8217;s also just 210g more than my current D7000 weighs. \u00a0Okay, so 210g is more than the entire weight of my PowerShot S90, and at 1kg with a battery it&#8217;s certainly not a pocket camera, but the D700 was about the limit of what I&#8217;d carry around with the kids and the D800 comes in a decent bit below that, so I&#8217;ll call it a win.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Price<\/strong>. \u00a0It was basically accepted that the D800 was going to cost $3,700, so when it was announced at the significantly lower price of $3,000, the surprise was a pleasant one. \u00a0It&#8217;s still not a cheap camera by any stretch, but $700 is a big difference and it doesn&#8217;t raise the price of going full frame.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Presumed ISO Capability<\/strong>. \u00a0At the time of my pre-order, I assumed that with similar sized photosites between the D7000 and D800, that per-pixel quality would be at least as good as the D7000 &#8211; and hopefully a little better, given that the design &amp; technology of the D800 is a little over a year newer. \u00a0Similar or better <strong>per-pixel<\/strong> quality from a noise perspective translates into much less visible noise when viewing at a fixed size &#8211; just look at a 50% crop vs. 100% crop of a D7000 image. Overall, at a fixed on-screen (or in print) size, the D800 ought to have at least a 1-stop lead over my D7000 when not shooting in crop mode &#8211; perhaps more. Sadly, resampling like this doesn&#8217;t improve high ISO dynamic range or color performance, which is just as important, but I convinced myself there&#8217;d be a meaningful improvement over the D7000. \u00a0Subsequent online samples and analysis seem to confirm this, with many saying that the D800 will equal or better the D700 (which is indeed about a stop better than the D7000).<\/li>\n<li><strong>Complete D7000 Replacement<\/strong>. \u00a0The D800 has a 36-megapixel 35.9mm x 24.0mm sensor. \u00a0The D7000 has a 16-megapixel 23.6mm x 15.6mm sensor. \u00a0Why does this matter? It means that when using DX lenses (of which I have several) that only cover an APS-C sized sensor, I&#8217;ll be getting the same resolution as the D7000 provides. So if I&#8217;m travelling somewhere and going light, I can still bring the 18-200 and get the same performance I would have with the D7000. With the D4, this wouldn&#8217;t have been the case. And being able to sell the D7000 (or configure it for Valerie to use) makes the effective price of the D800 even lower.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Video<\/strong>. \u00a0The D90 really wasn&#8217;t usable for video. \u00a0The output from the D7000 is better &#8211; enough that we don&#8217;t use or carry a separate camcorder anymore &#8211; but still leaves something to be desired when panning or focusing during shooting. \u00a0The\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/36326055\">sample D800 video<\/a>\u00a0is mind blowing, and while that requires expertise, skill, and setup that will never be present in anything I shoot it&#8217;s nice to know that motion, panning, and low light all seem to handle well when the camera is used optimally. I bet they still had complex rigs to shoot that sample video, though! I&#8217;m not a big video fan in general, but there are moments with the kids that still images just don&#8217;t capture.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Oddly, the D800s defining feature &#8211; 36 megapixels! &#8211; is nowhere to be found in my list (though it does make the D7000 replacement item possible). \u00a0I would gladly trade the super-high resolution (and my DX lenses) for the speed and high ISO capability of the D4, but that doesn&#8217;t look like an option that&#8217;s on offer. At least, not yet! And now I hope not soon, because I don&#8217;t want to be tempted to upgrade anytime soon :).<\/p>\n<p>So, what did I do to truly lock myself into going through with the D800 purchase? I bought this:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/mdscott.smugmug.com\/photos\/i-sMRZkb5\/0\/X3\/i-sMRZkb5-X3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" title=\"16-35 f\/4 VR\" src=\"http:\/\/mdscott.smugmug.com\/photos\/i-sMRZkb5\/0\/M\/i-sMRZkb5-M.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"398\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the Nikon 16-35mm f\/4 VR, a full-frame ultra-wide lens that&#8217;s roughly equivalent to the 10-24mm lens I use on the D7000 today. While I&#8217;ve essentially stuck to full frame lenses in the past several years in anticipation of ultimately buying something like the D800, as I mentioned in <a title=\"How Wide is Wide Enough?\" href=\"http:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/?p=156\">this post<\/a>, ultrawide full-frame lenses are useless on a crop camera. So in other words, if I don&#8217;t wind up with a D800, then the above purchase will be completely worthless.<\/p>\n<p>The only reason I pulled the trigger on the above is because it popped up in a local Craigslist ad, at a quite reasonable asking price. I&#8217;ve barely ever seen this lens second hand, so I went ahead in anticipation that I&#8217;d go through with the D800 purchase. I did use the legendary 14-24 on the D3 for a while, and though I never wrote it about it,\u00a0\u00a0the reputation it carries is deserved. But I expect the 16-35 to be far more practical for everyday use. Though perhaps at 36MP of resolution, I&#8217;ll be pining for the sharpness of the 14-24 in the end!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Image is Nikon&#8217;s, and links to their D800 page). In an\u00a0earlier post\u00a0on the announcement of the D4, I decided that the D4 was too big and too expensive to reasonably consider &#8211; and that the D800 was looking like it wasn&#8217;t the camera for me.\u00a0Almost three weeks ago, on February 7th, Nikon announced the D800 (and D800E) full frame cameras. And in spite of what I had said earlier, I pre-ordered a D800 the day of the announcement. \u00a0Did something change my mind &#8211; why did I preorder? Well, pre-ordering alone doesn&#8217;t take much guts &#8211; you get to pore over all the samples, analysis, and early user feedback in the month or so that follows until the camera actually starts shipping, and if you don&#8217;t like what you see, you can cancel at no cost. And if Nikon&#8217;s past launches have been indicative, there won&#8217;t be enough D800s anyways, so it&#8217;d probably be trivial to sell it perhaps even at a profit if it didn&#8217;t meet expectations. I intensely dislike secondary markets that offer new goods at inflated prices (because it results in lots of non-customers buying solely to make a profit, making it more difficult and expensive for legitimate fans to actually get the products in question, without providing any value back to the product creator &#8211; see the first year of the Nintendo Wii for examples), but it does take any risk out of pre-ordering. However, as I&#8217;ll explain below, I went a step further and actually committed to this for real. Given that the D800 isn&#8217;t intended to address my primary need &#8211; good enough high ISO performance to shoot the kids in ambient indoor light at shutter speeds that accommodate their constant state of motion &#8211; why did I commit anyways?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-567","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-photography"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=567"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":569,"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567\/revisions\/569"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=567"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=567"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/markdavidscott.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=567"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}